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    I have no doubt that Stephen has good intentions and would love to do what he's proposing. From the website updates back in '17 and '18 there were plans to re-manufacture left front fenders with new tooling and designing full custom interiors with new upgraded wiring harnesses. They were also courting several engine suppliers and hoping for a 300+hp powertrain that would meet current EPA emissions guidelines. All the up front cost of that development is what was driving the 100k sticker price.

    One of their main issues though is leaning heavily on vendors to do the engineering and design to make these things happen instead of doing it in house. James or somebody is managing the the project, but most if not all the design work is being farmed out to suppliers that make the parts. DMCH hands them a 40 year old print and says "make me this." In the past they have had some success doing this with simple parts, but have failed hard when the parts involve more in depth knowledge of automotive parts beyond what the drawing shows. The binnacles and dash are good examples where DMCH cut corners by trying to make parts out of injection molded plastic instead of modern materials that could stand up to an automotive environment. Whatever vendor they were using did not spec the materials appropriately for the intended use. Had DMCH gone to an automotive industry specific vendor or for dash panels the tooling and manufacturing costs would have made it impossible to break even unless they sold thousands of units or charged thousands of dollars per dash/binnacle. Either way, there simply isn't a big enough market that can bear the burden of those development costs.

    In the land of reality, I just don't think the business case is there for what is being proposed. I just don't know where they think they are going to find enough buyers for a 100k replica car to cover all of those costs. The 300 cars per year forecast is probably what they would actually need to be profitable. Anything significantly less and they'd never recoup the investment.

    So yeah, what will probably end up happening is they'll build one or two prototypes using existing parts to avoid all the tooling charges, do some one-off hand built custom interior like they did back in the early 2000's. Drop in a crate engine from who knows where and then show it off to the world hoping to drum up interest. When the mass orders never materialize the mass production plans will die. Anyone who does order a "new" one will receive a bespoke build custom to order using donor car as a base, just as it is today with the refurbished cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark D View Post
    The binnacles and dash are good examples where DMCH cut corners by trying to make parts out of injection molded plastic instead of modern materials that could stand up to an automotive environment. Whatever vendor they were using did not spec the materials appropriately for the intended use.
    Yet somehow a guy in the UK managed to produce a hundred or so fiberglass binnacles of excellent build quality. I know because I've had one in my car for about five years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevedmc View Post
    Yet somehow a guy in the UK managed to produce a hundred or so fiberglass binnacles of excellent build quality. I know because I've had one in my car for about five years.
    Yeah, and DPI is going gangbusters making their own parts. Sooner or later, it'll be possible to make a car from completely new parts, although it might be kind of a Frankenstein creation.

    At which point the VIN purists go nuclear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevedmc View Post
    They already do just what you mentioned, of course with recycled vin plates, a recovered binnacle and a few other refurbished parts.


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    I was referring to the new new build, not the new build. The new new build will have a modern day engine. The new build has a OE PRV much like the remanufactured build does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustneverEnds View Post
    Jeez, $67K in receipts and she still has an oil leak?!
    This beauty is in better condition than mine so I am probably suffering from envy now and need something to pick at.
    $33K + 5% BaT fee. Someone got a bargain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChocky View Post
    $33K + 5% BaT fee. Someone got a bargain.
    Very well bought.
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    Call me crazy but I do think this car has a lot of potential at the price it's going at: https://www.ebay.com/itm/12408024820...NG_SOON.R3.TR3

    Yes, the stainless has significant dents, some interior pieces are missing, and it probably will need fuel system and brake work but the frame looks pretty decent (from what the pics show) the engine runs and is all there. As of late I have seen worse cars sell for more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustneverEnds View Post
    Call me crazy but I do think this car has a lot of potential at the price it's going at: https://www.ebay.com/itm/12408024820...NG_SOON.R3.TR3

    Yes, the stainless has significant dents, some interior pieces are missing, and it probably will need fuel system and brake work but the frame looks pretty decent (from what the pics show) the engine runs and is all there. As of late I have seen worse cars sell for more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustneverEnds View Post
    Call me crazy but I do think this car has a lot of potential at the price it's going at: https://www.ebay.com/itm/12408024820...NG_SOON.R3.TR3

    Yes, the stainless has significant dents, some interior pieces are missing, and it probably will need fuel system and brake work but the frame looks pretty decent (from what the pics show) the engine runs and is all there. As of late I have seen worse cars sell for more.
    https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto...075170816.html this one showed up locally. Real roll of the dice, I think. But it's really close, so
    I might just go have a look.

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